Guest Editor
Carmen O’Neal | 58 & CO

I’m Carmen O’Neal, though many know me as Cocktail Carmen. I founded 58 and CO Distillery to create elevated, ethical spirits rooted in connection and community. We are proudly B Corp certified and produce sustainably at our solar-powered distillery in Haggerston. Building a distillery here has been about more than what’s in the glass. It’s about creating something with integrity in a city that never stands still.
Carmen O’Neal
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As well as being one of Saturday Kitchen’s drinks experts, Carmen O’Neal, aka Cocktail Carmen, is the founder of award-winning, ethical, B Corp certified distillery 58 and CO in Haggerston. Here she produces gin, vodka, vermouth, bitter, shochu and more, and hosts regular tastings and events, so she knows just what it takes to make a great cocktail.
Distilling What Matters | How to Build an Ethical Distillery in London

Our Guest Editor and 58 and CO founder Carmen O’Neal shares her story
London has a way of asking you who you are and then daring you to prove it.
I did not grow up in the drinks industry. I grew up in Canada in a house that smelled of lavender oil and eucalyptus. My mum owned some of Canada’s first health stores, long before wellness became an aesthetic. I was eating tofu and chickpeas before protein was a buzzword. I watched her choose suppliers carefully, build relationships slowly, and treat her ingredients as though they carried meaning, because to her, they did. Profit and principle were never opposing forces in that house. They were partners.
My first business was making beeswax ornaments at the kitchen table at age five. I did not know then that I was quietly absorbing the foundations of what would one day become a distillery in East London. But I was learning something that has never left me: what you make carries your values with it, whether you intend it to or not.
When I moved to London, I fell hard for its contradictions. It is relentless and generous, traditional and wildly experimental, a city that will test your resolve on a Tuesday morning and reward your conviction by Friday night. It is also a city with one of the most curious, demanding, and genuinely discerning hospitality scenes in the world, a place where what sits behind the bar is increasingly as considered as what ends up in the glass.
When the opportunity came to build a distillery here, I knew I wanted it to carry the same values I had grown up with. Not as a brand story. As actual practice.

I did not launch 58 and CO with a sustainability manifesto or a polished impact report. We just made decisions, one at a time, deliberately, and with the understanding that early choices set the culture of a company long before the culture sets itself. Renewable energy became part of the architecture, not an afterthought bolted on later. Our driveway was built from recycled plastic straws. We committed to on-site composting, UK-made recycled glass, and British wheat. We created a pink gin using rescued wonky apples, fruit rejected by supermarkets for failing to meet their cosmetic standards, destined for waste until we got to them first.
None of those decisions were accidental. Some were more expensive. All were deliberate.
There is something that happens inside a team when sustainability stops being theoretical. When people see waste composted, bottles refilled, and energy drawn from the roof above their heads, it becomes instinct rather than initiative. That shift matters more than any certification. Though the certifications, as it turned out, would matter too.
Then Covid arrived and theory was replaced by urgency. Almost overnight, the hospitality industry, our community, our ecosystem, shut down. Orders evaporated. Bars closed. The London we had built our business inside went very quiet, very fast. We had two options: protect what little revenue remained, or pivot entirely.
Within days, we switched our full production to hand sanitiser. No partial lines, no limited batches. We repurposed our still and redesigned labels. We became one of the first distilleries in the UK to do so at scale. We supplied hospitals, shelters, care homes and the Metropolitan Police. I remember personally delivering sanitiser to frontline workers who had none. In that moment, the purpose of what we had built crystallised. An ethical business is not defined in good times. It is defined in crisis.
When 58 and CO became a certified B Corporation in 2021, the first female-founded distillery in the UK to achieve it, it felt less like a milestone and more like a responsibility. Recertification last year reinforced that. B Corp is not a badge you wear once. It is a continuous audit of your impact. It forces you to examine governance, pay equity, supply chains and environmental footprint. It asks uncomfortable questions, which is precisely why it matters.
London’s hospitality scene has been an essential partner in that journey. Venues like Big Penny Social and BAMBI, groups like JKS Restaurant Group and Ottolenghi, these are places that understand provenance. They ask where things come from. They care what story a bottle carries before they put it on their back bar. That belief led us to rethink something deceptively simple, the House Pour.


Bars pour enormous volumes of gin and vodka every week, most of it arriving in single-use glass that gets recycled at best and landfilled at worst. We developed refillable house pour spirits built specifically for hospitality, delivered in five-litre recyclable boxes that dramatically cut packaging waste and, over time, reduces costs for venues. When we launched it, we were told bag-in-box would never work for premium spirits. Six years later, we are saving twenty-six tonnes of glass a year from entering the market, and it is served across London and beyond.
Sustainability works best when it is not a moral argument but a practical one. Refill systems save space, reduce overheads, and shift the relationship between producer and venue from transactional to genuinely collaborative.
Collaboration has become one of our most powerful tools and one of the most creatively satisfying. London is full of producers sitting on surplus and by-product, material that the food and drink industry tends to write off before it has been properly imagined. We began asking a different question: not how do we avoid waste, but what can waste become?
We created an olive oil vodka using excess extra virgin olive oil from Citizens of Soil, a female-founded B Corp championing regenerative agriculture. We developed a vermouth from surplus wine with Laylo. We produced the UK’s first traditionally made shochu in collaboration with KANPAI. Each collaboration started with something overlooked and ended with something genuinely worth celebrating. Waste, more often than not, is simply imagination waiting to be applied.
I won’t pretend that building this way is straightforward. Energy costs rise. Supply chains wobble. Inflation squeezes margins that were never fat to begin with. Sustainable materials cost more, often significantly more. Scaling a refill system requires patience, logistics, and a willingness to have the same conversation with sceptical buyers approximately forty times before it lands. There is a constant, unresolved tension between growth and integrity, and I am not sure that tension ever fully disappears.
But London rewards conviction. Its consumers are curious and increasingly sophisticated. They ask questions. They support brands that stand for something they can actually touch and verify.
For me, distilling has always been about concentration, the act of stripping away excess to reveal something essential. The same principle applies to building a business. Remove the shortcuts. Remove the surface-level fixes. What remains are your values, and they either hold under pressure or they don’t.
Every bottle 58 and CO produces carries the imprint of those early lessons from a Canadian health store and a kitchen table covered in beeswax. It carries the clarity that came from a pandemic that gave us no good options, only the choice between a principled response and a convenient one. It carries the scrutiny of B Corp certification and the weight of being the first female-founded distillery in the UK to earn it. It carries the belief that incredible liquid and ethics can coexist.
In a city as complex and demanding as London, building sustainably is not the easiest route. But it is the only one that feels honest.

